

Hereâs an answer to another great question sent in by Rachel Pedersen.
On this episode Russell answers a question from Rachel Pedersen about how you create your vision without moving just one stair at a time. Here are some of the awesome things to listen for in this episode:
-- Find out who told Russell about surpassing everything they thought was possible, so they are trying to enjoy everything in the moment.
-- See how Gene Simmons of Kiss taught Russell to think about things differently to be able to strategically skip some steps.
So listen here to find out Russellâs advice on creating his vision.




But anyway, at dinner I asked JP, âSo whatâs next for you? Whatâs the next plan?â and he kind of smiled at me, he looked so content, something that Iâve never been in my life, and he was like, âYou know what, so far everything thatâs happened to me has surpassed what I ever thought was possible. So Iâm trying to just enjoy it, and just enjoy the things as they come and be grateful for them.â And I was like, âOh my gosh. That is amazing. I need to learn how to do that.â
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Whatâs up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to
the Marketing Secrets podcast. Iâm excited to be hanging out with
you today. Iâm actually driving, Iâm back in the car like how this
show started way back in the day. I got a Vox from Rachel Pedersen,
one of my favorite people in this funnel hacking community, the
other day. She asked a really good question, so on this episode Iâm
going to answer her question.
Alright everybody, so most of you know Rachel Pedersen, she
spoken at the last two Funnel Hacking Lives, sheâs amazing. Sheâs
also the queen of Tik Tok, and my daughter is her biggest fan. Itâs
just, anyway, sheâs actually coming to Boise and my daughter is so
excited to Tik Tok with her, which is going to be so fun. Anyway,
sheâs amazing and the other day she voxed me over a really cool
question about taking things one stair at a time and how you create
your vision and how you bypass things, and all that kind of stuff.
So Iâm going to play part of her vox right here, so you can hear
her question and then Iâm going to come back and answer it.
Rachel: Someone called me out today and they were very spot on.
They said, âI feel like you are taking the stairs one stair at a
time when you are destined for greatness.â So my question to you is
this, how did you create a vision? Did it fall into your lap? Did
you read a book? How do you create a vision for your life and your
business that keeps everything going? You know, like the infinite
game from Simon Sinek? Thank you so so so much.
Russell: Okay, so I think itâs a really good question and itâs
interesting because I think for a lot of us we get into this game
and we donât really know whatâs possible or where weâre going or
any of those things. I definitely didnât know. I didnât know whatâs
happening today was possible by any stretch of the imagination. So
I think sometimes you bypass your vision. In fact, it was kind of a
really cool, one of the really cool experiences I wasâŚsome of you
guys remember the Clickfunnels start up story with Mixergy at this
place in Utah called the Dry Bar Comedy Club. And I had JP Sears
come and just roast me for an hour before we did the interview, and
it was so funny.
But anyway, at dinner I asked JP, âSo whatâs next for you?
Whatâs the next plan?â and he kind of smiled at me, he looked so
content, something that Iâve never been in my life, and he was
like, âYou know what, so far everything thatâs happened to me has
surpassed what I ever thought was possible. So Iâm trying to just
enjoy it, and just enjoy the things as they come and be grateful
for them.â And I was like, âOh my gosh. That is amazing. I need to
learn how to do that.â
So thereâs that piece of it, right. I think us entrepreneurs
struggle with it sometimes because weâre always looking, it comes
back to my last podcast episode talking about, weâre so tied into
achievement, achievement, achievement, we forget about the
fulfillment part. So thereâs that one part. But the other side,
which I understand more, is this goal of achieving and trying to
take over the world and stuff like that.
You know, I remember at the very first live event I ever went
to, I remember I paid $1000 to go to it, which is like the first
step for me. Iâm like, âOh, itâs so much money.â I was stressing
out. And the speaker was talking and I saw people selling different
things and I remember just, I was like, âI could never afford this
thing for $2 grand or $5 grand or $10 grand or all these different
things.â and just being kind of bummed out about it. And I remember
I met this kid, and the kid was, I donât know, maybe a year older
than me or maybe my same age. I was probably 22 at the time, he
might have been 23 or something. But we were about the same
age.
And I saw the presenter sold this mastermind group and he ran up
and signed up for it. I was like, âDude, how do you afford that?â I
couldnât figure it out. How do you afford that? And heâs like, âOh,
thereâs two ways you can get to the top. You can either work your
way in, or you can buy your way in. So I just buy my way in.â Iâm
like, âWhoa!â First off that was this leap in thought that I had
never crossed my mind before. Iâm like, okay, thatâs pretty
cool.
And then I started asking some more questions, like âHow do you
afford this.â And heâs like, âIâm actually in, I think like 12
masterminds at the time.â I was like, âWhat? Howâd you do that?â
and he came back and said, âWell, what I did is I went and I wanted
to go to these things but I couldnât afford it so I found a group
of people who I kind of trained and taught stuff to. I said, I want
to go to all these mastermind groups, obviously its going to be
expensive for everyone to pay for you for, if you guys want to go
to all these as well, itâs going to be really expensive. So if
youâre interested, if you pay me $10 grand and I get 20 people, so
Iâll have $200,000 Iâll go join all of them and Iâll come back and
tell you the cool stuff that I learned.â
And he got all these people to pay $20 grand and he took the
money, or 10 grand, whatever it was. I donât know, and he joined
all these mastermind groups and he bought his way in, and he built
this company very, very quickly. And I thought that was just a
strategic thing.
You know, I remember Celebrity Apprentice, if you watched
Celebrity Apprentice in the past, the first 3 or 4 episodes, people
did things as like fund raisers, âGo raise money.â So theyâd go out
on the street and theyâd try to sell lemonade and all these things
to raise money. It wasnât till, I donât know, 2 or 3 seasons in
when the dude from Kiss, yeah Kiss, Gene SimmonsâŚGene Simmons was
on it, and they do this fundraising thing, and everyone goes out
there and theyâre trying to raise money, theyâre hustling, and he
just sat there, picked up his phone, made a phone call and got a
check from his buddies for like half a million dollars and he
destroyed everybody else.
And I remember looking at that thinking, heâs just thinking at a
different level than everybody else. Itâs just this thought
difference. Everyoneâs like, hereâs the task, I must do the thing.
And jump, jump, jump, step by step by step. Whereas Gene Simmons
came back and said, âLook, I can do that. Or I can just do this and
weâll jump a thousand steps past everyone else.â
And I think, I remember watching that and just having this aha
and just like, I gotta start thinking more strategically. I think
so many of us think tactically, which tactics are so important,
thatâs how we get the thing done. But it takes us stopping from it
and stepping back and looking at things more strategically, of
like, okay, instead of just hereâs the next step and the next step,
if you really want to jump 5, or 10, or 20 tiers, itâs not going to
happen by you doing the next step. Itâs stepping back and saying
whatâs the next thing? Whatâs the big domino, the next, I donât
know. Thereâs different ways to phrase it, and Iâm not sure the
best way. But conceptually itâs stopping the tactics and stepping
back strategically and thinking different.
When we launched Clickfunnels, I had so many amazing strategic
conversations with friends and people that werenât like, âJust
launch a software company.â If you read the Expert Secrets book, we
talked about movement and finding a future based cause and all
these things that werenât tactical, like hereâs the next step. But
itâs like, how do weave these things into our culture? How do you
do these things that cause these incremental big shifts, as opposed
to just increasing your ads by 10% or just creating another front
end offer.
Itâs like, how do you create things that have mass shifts, you
know, mass changes and things like that. I think it really becomes
stepping back away from the tactical, which means getting out of
the day to day, which means taking a vacation, which is hard for
us. Or doing a strategy meeting with your team and just saying,
âLook, for three days weâre not going to work, weâre just going to
talk about whatâs possible? Whatâs the future? Where could we go?
Not, whatâs the next step? But like, what if we just destroyed
these steps and had a whole new thing? What would that look like
and how do we get there?â
You know, pull a Gene Simmons and instead of going out
fundraising you just pull out a, you just pull out your phone and
call a buddy and get $500,000 in 5 seconds. You know, thatâs the
power of it. So anyway, I hope that helps. I know itâs not a full
answer, but hopefully it gets the wheels in your head spinning.
And for everyone else whoâs listening, I hope that helps
as well. I appreciate you all, t hanks for listening to this
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Bye everybody
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